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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:26 pm 
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So my mothers car, which is a 99 Pontiac Grand Am, runs over 200 degrees. As a result the power steering seems a bit sluggish, even though it's not low, and kills if you try to turn too sharply.

My first thought was perhaps the oil, it was low (about a quart maybe) and well overdue for one, but upon changing that, it runs hotter than it did normally (Just above 200 degrees F, 200 was 'normal').

My mother doesn't really know the end of a wrench, and I don't pretend like I know every mechanical term for things, so pardon my ignorance. I do though, know which end of a wrench to use, and basic mechanical common sense.

The reason I mentioned this is because she claimed she knew why it was still overheating, and said a gasket was either bad, or missing. The only gasket I can think of that would have anything to do with the coolant system is the intake manifold gasket. That doesn't make any sense though, unless something was blocking the tubes, so to speak, and upon trying to relate to her unmechanicalness, I received no further information.

I'm planning on changing the power steering pump on the vehicle, but I doubt this would fix the issue, again though, I don't know everything about automobiles. Just basic common sense and troubleshooting.

I haven't checked the obvious, such as the radiator coolant level, but I also may have *very slightly* overfilled the P.S. tank, and I mean very slightly. I presume this is what is causing the mollasses-like feeling in the wheel, due to the fluid levels being different if the vehicle is hot or cold, that and it didn't happen before I added the fluid. The pump may also be failing, as I was told it's the reason for the high pitched whine under the hood. This is not the usual slippery bat screech, but a consistent whine.

Any tips, teachings, or general advice would help. I'm trying to get the car mechanically sound before I inherit the poor clunker, but atleast the LA1-3400 iron block in it puts out a decent bit of torque when it needs too.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:29 am 
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2 issues -1) P/S - 2) temperature issue - correct?
tell us which engine- 2.4L or 3.4L
lets get started, easy simple first- - is the Check Engine Light or Service engine soon lights on ?
confirm to us that - the above mentioned light comes on at start- OR try this freeby ask autozone at el for a free diagnostic code check- post all codes they give you its free
we will need to know that to procede as PS and cooling are controlled by the vehicle computer, and different designs.

to keep you busy- remove eng oil dipstick - what color is oil- Brown, black, or a latte coffee cream color? With cold engine do same for eng coolant - what color.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:18 am 
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kev2 wrote:
2 issues -1) P/S - 2) temperature issue - correct?
tell us which engine- 2.4L or 3.4L
lets get started, easy simple first- - is the Check Engine Light or Service engine soon lights on ?
confirm to us that - the above mentioned light comes on at start- OR try this freeby ask autozone at el for a free diagnostic code check- post all codes they give you its free
we will need to know that to procede as PS and cooling are controlled by the vehicle computer, and different designs.

to keep you busy- remove eng oil dipstick - what color is oil- Brown, black, or a latte coffee cream color? With cold engine do same for eng coolant - what color.


The car runs too hot, yes, but as a result power steering will kill the car after it has warmed up. This is a very serious safety concern. Common sense told me too much fluid.

I just changed the oil not even a week ago. The previous oil was opaque black, and I'd presume the current oil is clear/yellow still. I used a castrol high mileage blend. This Tuesday, actually.

Also, I mentioned in my post that I'm not stupid and know the end of a wrench, why did you not even bother reading half of my original post? Yes, I know autozone does free code scanning. No, I do not have time daily to spend working on the car. Yes majority of the service lights are on.

If you're giving me said 'busywork' to check to see if the head gasket is failing, and to see if oil is beginning to mix with water, I had already planned to check that.

Friend of mine suggested sucking a little power steering fluid out with a syringe, checking the overflow tank for discoloration, and my personal idea was flush the radiator to collect the possible oil-laiden water. It couldn't hurt as the car needs a serious tune up.

Also fairly certain it is a 3.0L 6 cylinder 3400 buick block. Manufactured in china or michigan by general motors, the car isn't mine, as I said. As far as I know, it is not the supercharged variant. Only information I've found is that the 3.4L engines were used in post 99 pontiacs. Of course, I could be wrong as I normally am.

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